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From The Darkness-DARKSiDERS



Somewhere in-between these passing events, Lucifer has the servile companion of Vulgrim, Dis, punished and imprisoned for skulking about in his affairs on the scavenger's behalf. Firstly, Lucifer contacted Astarte of the Faneguard, her mind already broken from Corruption and made a deal with her; the power to raise the dead and freedom from her duties in exchange for Eden and her soul upon her death.




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When the Horsemen, Strife and War, arrived on Earth and bore witness to the corrupted Humans, Lucifer appeared before them. Possessing the body of a human child, he taunted the Horsemen with the flaws of Humanity, then asked if the Riders would exterminate all the humans just to stop the effects of The Animus. Before either of the Horsemen could take action against him, The Lord of all Hells departed from the human vessel and escaped.


Though nothing could be done to undo the damage Lucifer had put upon Man, it was still deemed an intolerable act, which led The Charred Council to cut off Earth from the rest of Creation and forging the Seven Seals in response.


In the true ending where Fury attains an amulet of Souls that the Lord of the Hollows transformed into and decides to use it to protect herself from the Charred Council's attack, the Dark Prince angrily tells Lilith that she was supposed to silence the traitor to the Dark Kingdom before ultimately deciding that it did not matter since she knew not what she held. He mused that the Charred Council would deliberate on the matter, then make the mistake of sending War to Earth which will lead to him destroying the Seventh Seal (naturally after killing Abaddon) and that he would rule over the chaos before dismissing Lilith.


After Death restored humanity and destroyed the source of Corruption, Lucifer lost the means through which he could dispose of his enemies. To add insult to injury, Lilith failed to bring forth an army of the Nephilim due to their souls being lost forever and, in their place, humanity was reborn from the devastation he'd wrought once again.


Lucifer does not seem to tolerate failure as he made sure to punish Belial for his failure and for giving information to the horsemen. He also did not tolerate Lilith's failure in bringing back the Nephilim as she promised him to be his army. He seems to be creative in ways intended to punish and inflict pain onto others as he stated that Lilith would not derive any pleasure from her punishment this time and from her screams his words rang true.


As for the battle here, hmmm...I need to see some gameplay vids of Death...as for Death full power, are you talking a maxed out character (at which point a build would need to be picked from what I am reading), or are you allowing him access to all of the skills?


@neongamewave: If it's Jackie as we know him, then I'm not certainly how well he'd perform. He's quite tough and the Darkness gives him quite the healing factor. Though overall the concept isn't that different from Absalom's once he became Corruption. Essentially the darkness and twisted evil that rots and destroys all things.


Absalom was immensely strong, could generate blast waves with his waraxe, Absolution, as well as tendrils of Corruptions that could ensnare targets and attack others. Strong enough to block blows from Death's scythes. Absalom could even increase his size and mass to a degree, increasing his strength and power.


@neongamewave: It does, Jackie can pretty much form about anything he wants from the Darkness. Its strength really depends on him. While Absalom doesn't so much create as corrupt and alter other things with his power, whether they be living flesh or animated stone. Even Angels and Demons weren't immune to the Corruption.


Perhaps what protected Death from affliction by Corruption was also his belief in the Balance. Without it there'd be nothing. He knows that destruction is as necessary as creation. As the rider of Death, he probably knows that better than anyone. Those he reaps are channeled through the Well into the Dead Kingdom, and when ready they may be reborn into new life back through the Well.


So I can't say whether or not Jackie can spawn things from inside Death's body, or if Death's very nature and his own magic and necromantic abilities would protect against that. Heck even after the Amulet bearing the souls of the entire race of Nephilim was embedded in his chest and their wailing souls continually assaulted his psyche, it didn't seem to affect him one bit. He remained solid.


So I'd say it's a gamble as to whether or not Jackie could directly affect him like that. Death has taken shots from pretty much every force you can think of. Demonic powers, fire and lightning, other undead forces like Bone Giants and Ice giants, as well as the former Ruler of the Dead kingdom, Argul. Not to mention more heavenly powers like from the Rod of Arafel, and being TK'd and blasted around by Samael.


Think of Jackie as less like Green Lantern, and more like a molecular manipulator of something that is in us all. The only person that could resist having it manipulated is Aram the Witch King, and that is only because he used to be the host for the Darkness, and knows it's secrets like no other (and whatever rituals he performed causes the Darkness to flee from his presence). So whatever Jackie does, it's not like a corruption type thing that infects, it's him using a power of creation on something that is naturally a part of us all all the down to the molecular level if he so chooses. He also doesn't have to just create creatures on the inside, he could mess with bodily systems in any number of ways. There is a lot of darkness in the body, and a lot Jackie could do with it.


The Firstborn, Absalom, was created by Lilith through a method that's completely unknown to anyone. Even Lilith does not know what it is anymore because shortly after she created Absalom, the Charred Council stripped her of the means and knowledge of the creation of the Nephilim and cast her into Hell as a demon. Though she is aware that she created the Nephilim, she nor anyone else, knows how the process was done or what was involved. All that anyone had said was that they were made from the mingled dust of Angel and Demon. What that actually means or entails is completely unknown, perhaps even to the Charred Council or even the Creator who charged them with maintaining the Balance.


We know that Corruption is also a primal force from the very beginning to balance Creation, and Absalom became the very incarnation and avatar of Corruption itself which may be attributed to more than just Death killing him and the extinction of the Nephilim. But also all the untold uncountable worlds the Nephilim had destroyed in their conquests, and incalculable number of souls that died because of their bloodlust. All that suffering along with the destruction of the Nephilim had all attributed to Absalom becoming the agent of Corruption.


See, the Darkness isn't a corruption, and from what I am reading of Absalom's words, Death's own sins and so on seem to make him akin to the Corruption in some manner, which is why he isn't being affected. Sure, it may be a taunt, but then again, it may not be, but the words are what they are. Being akin to the Darkness, has never really stopped Jackie from doing his thing:


The only time he has had issues is when the Darkness was trying to replace him, and even then, he grew to the point where the Darkness really couldn't keep him from it's power anymore (and he eventually goes on to replace the entity). 041b061a72


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